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June 16, 2023/Neurosciences/Podcast

Incorporating Endoscopic Spine Surgery in Practice (Podcast)

Minimally invasive approach is gaining prominence as a fast and safe outpatient procedure

Minimally invasive spine surgery aided by endoscopes can speed patient recovery, reduce postoperative pain and improve outcomes.

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“For the right pathologies, endoscopic surgery can really minimize trauma to muscles,” says Michael Steinmetz, MD, Chair of Cleveland Clinic’s Department of Neurosurgery and Director of its Center for Spine Health. “You can sometimes do it without removing any bone and sometimes with almost no blood loss. It’s all done through the very small endoscope, which may have an outer diameter of eight or nine millimeters.”

In the latest episode of Cleveland Clinic’s Neuro Pathways podcast, Dr. Steinmetz shares insight on the evolving field of endoscopic spine surgery. He discusses:

  • Traditional spine surgery versus the endoscopic approach
  • Endoscopic spine surgery at the cervical, thoracic and lumbar levels
  • The training pathway for surgeons who want to integrate this approach into their practice
  • The integration of robotics and navigation into endoscopic spine surgery
  • Ideal candidates and conditions for the procedure

Click the podcast player above to listen to the 26-minute episode now, or read on for a short edited excerpt. Check out more Neuro Pathways episodes at clevelandclinic.org/neuropodcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Excerpt from the podcast

Podcast host Glen Stevens, DO, PhD: Let’s say I trained at a program that didn’t offer this, but I’m out in practice and I want to work this technology into my capabilities. How do I go about doing the training?

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Dr. Steinmetz: This is what’s happening as surgeons who have been in practice for a few years begin to want to apply this technology. The pathway I would suggest involves taking advantage of courses that are now being taught at our national meetings and courses being taught by industry itself — companies that make endoscopes — including both didactic and cadaver-based courses.

I would advise someone who’s never done this but wants to try it to first go to a few of these courses. Maybe two or three of them where they’re cadaver-based and didactic, where you’re learning the technology, you’re learning how to target the spine with the endoscope to get into the spine safely.You’re understanding the anatomy, how the scope works, and you’re doing it on a cadaver or even a simulator so that you get comfortable with it.

Even at that point, before applying it to your clinical practice, I would recommend going to observe a program — coming to Cleveland Clinic or another dedicated endoscopic spine program — to watch those surgeons and the pathologies they treat so you can see what they’re doing. You can watch it all on a TV screen, which is beautiful for an observer. It’s not direct observation. The endoscopist is actually looking at a TV screen, which is what you would be looking at, so you can see the anatomy and the pathology, see what it looks like when there’s still compression, see what it looks like after it’s decompressed, and you can understand that fully.

I’d recommend only moving into clinical practice when you’ve got enough technical skills on a cadaver or a simulator — probably more than once, maybe more than twice — and you’ve observed it in real practice. Then perhaps you can try it in a very easy, straightforward procedure like a transforaminal discectomy. I would strongly recommend that type of pathway before taking this on in clinical practice.

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